When he started the church, it was very surreptitious. Today, Mountain of Fire and Ministries (popularly called MFM) is a frontline church in Nigeria. Recognised for its prayer power, the man behind is church is press shy. We capture him in |
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this rare interview he granted recently.
What is the significance of the programme Power Must Change Hands for MFM?
Power Must Change Hands was a programme established by God Himself. The first edition of the programme took place here at the headquarters in July 1995. There are many reasons why Power Must Change Hands came into existence.
These include: to turn the joy of the enemies to sorrow; to disgrace stubborn situations; to change the poor from the hands of the devil to the hands of God; to disgrace affliction and its resurrection; to set free both lawful and unlawful captives; challenge territorial powers; to enable the children of god to possess their possession.
The programme is not meant for member of MFM alone, but for followers of Christ, who want to enjoy freedom here on earth, before going to heaven. As a Christian, you can choose to go to heaven like Abraham, who was rich and went to heaven a fulfilled man or Lazarus who made heaven as a poor man. The choice is yours.
Since the establishment of this programme, God has used it to do many things; uncommon miracles had taken plane since 1995. The history of power must change hands cannot be completed without mentioning the song which we usually sing. The song was invented by Sister Shade Olukoya, whom God has been using to do song ministration in the ministry. It is this unique and Holy Spirit inspired song that goes with the programme up till now. The only time the programme went on for two days, king Urahiah of Nigerian passed on.
The programme is not only special, but it is very unique. Since God gave me the vision of the programme over 10 years ago, I have not missed the programme because it is a covenant between God and I. The programme which takes place on Saturday of every month how, takes place at our Prayer City along Lagos-Ibadan Expressway.
What does the church stand for?
The following are the goals and aims of the Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries, as handed to the General Overseer.
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To propagate the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ all over the world.
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To bring together children of God who are lost in dead churches.
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To train believers in the art and science of spiritual warfare; thus making them as aggressive and victorious army for the Lord.
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To train believers to receive Holy Ghost baptism and fire as well as a daily walk and relationship with the Holy Spirit.
*To turn the joy of our enemies to sorrow. That is why we would always have a deliverance ministry wherever we are. If you do not believe in deliverance, you are not supposed to be in MFM.
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To build an aggressive end-time army for the Lord.
MFM is an end-time church where we build an aggressive end-time for the Lord. What is an end-time church? An end-time church is a church where a sinner enters with tow options. He either repents or does not come back, contrary to the present day church where sinners are comfortable and find things so easy and convenient.
To deliver those who have become slaves to pastors' prophets and apostle. To build up heavenly-bound and aggressive Christians. The |
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priority in MFM is for people to be aggressive Christians. The priority in MFM is for people to make heaven. It is not a worldly Church. To build up prayer eagles. To purify the Pentecostal dirtiness of this age.
There seems to be mystery behind the formation of MFM.
There is no other mystery behind (MFM) except the power of God. However, MFM is different from other churches because we are only following the blueprint of the church as given by God Himself. It is because I followed the blueprint of the church that is why I'm here today as the servant of the Living God.
When if finished my PHD programme at the University of Reading in England , I have a vision for myself.
Even before then, I was a very quiet person but the day God touched me, I became a different person, somebody that does not like to talk now shouting on top of his voice. Yes, when I came back I joined my fellow worshippers at the CAC, it was then that God asked me to go and establish a church at Makoko, on the outskirts of Lagos. Makoko, for those who know, is the area where you have concentration of white garment churches. No other churches, apart from these strange churches, survived. I went there to establish a branch of CAC there, in fact, the move surprised many people.
To some, I don't know what I'm doing. They kept asking how could somebody with a PHD from the UK go and establish a church in Makoko, leaving behind the good atmosphere of our church then, but I want to tell you that God moved in a mighty way while I was there. In fact, that church is still there up till today.
... The only thing that devil cannot do is to pray.
Whom he is going to pray to?
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On the strange nature of prayers in MFM, we believe in prayers. Prayers that can shake the throne of God. Let me make it clear that everything we do as children of God, Satan can do it, if not better. But the only thing that devil cannot do is to pray. Whom he is going to pray to? Nobody. These prayers cannot become effective except you remain holy and more importantly, the prayer cannot work unless you give your life totally to Jesus Christ.
Many have asked me various question abut some of the prayers we pray at MFM, most especially the 'fall down die…' Let me quickly say here that MFM, does not pray against human beings, but we pray against spirits that give power or support to human beings to do evil.
Although spirits do not die, but one can render their power useless with prayers. So the prayer 'fall down and die...' is targeted at the spirit behind a problem, not against human beings. But many asked Bible tells us to pray for our enemies. Oh yes, Bible also dealt with the enemy who does not want him to fulfill his gospel mission. Any power that does not want you to fulfill your divine destiny must be dealt with. So in MFM, we don't negotiate with the enemies.
So many miracles have taken place in MFM as a church within and outside the shore of Nigeria . Could you tell share some with us?
Everyday, miracles happen in MFM. Even for us to have slept and woke up the following morning, that alone is a miracle. But I want to tell you that all the miracles that have taken place in MFM were done by God Himself. No man has the power to do miracles that is why all the glory goes to God. I have lost count of what God has done in MFM, but I will recollect one or two that God has done, even before the establishment of MFM.
When I was in University of Reading, many people did not want to hear the name of God, talk less is words. It is strange but true. I kept praying about this until one day when something happened. We were in a conference room when a tea girl was coming to serve us tea during a break session. All of a sudden, she fell down and passed on. As scientists, the one thing my colleagues did was to check the pause, which went dead. And all hope was lost on her. But then, I offered to pray for the girl.
The first question my classmates asked me was are you not a scientist? Don't you see that her pause is dead? But I pleaded with them. Unwillingly, I was allowed and I prayed for this little girl who had died, in the name of Jesus. I had not called the name of Jesus three times when she rose and came back to life. I want to tell you that this singular action spread the gospel of God like fire in the University.
Another strange miracle happened some years back, when our anointing oil, which was prayed into in one of the anointing services, was applied into the nostril of a dead man in the Unites States of America by his relative. To the glory of God and to the amazement of the doctor in charge of the hospital, the dead man came back to life. In fact, the doctor came all the way from America to see us here.
Also, there was a man who was living in England who was sick and went for medical check-up. After the exercise, his doctor told him that he had just two weeks to live. Therefore, he came back to Nigeria to put his house in order and to prepare his will. But his little daughter brought him to one of our services and sat, waiting for his last days on earth.
But all of a sudden, as prayers were going on, this man fell down and he was still in the position when the service ended. Later he stood up. But while he fell down in trance, he saw an angel of the living God beside him, who one after the other replace all the organs in his body.
The first and second, this man was still living and this was a man that was given just two weeks by the doctor. After one year, this man went back to England and he was on his way home when he decided to branch at the hospital he was told he had just two more weeks to live. When the doctor saw him, he fainted because he thought the man was a ghost. That is the power of God.
Another miracle that touched my life was this young man who had First Class in economics from a UK University in the 70s. You must know very well that at this period, employment was automatic for graduates.
But when this man came back to Nigeria, no company was ready to offer him a job. The road seems to have been closed against him. Again, he was at one of our services and he just prayed one prayer point, '...every power that stole my virtue, I recover it by fire.'
All of a sudden, he fell into trance and the angel of living God took him to the burial ground where a woman called Margaret was called and came out of the ground. The angel asked him, where is the virtue of this man, while the woman gave excuses that she had died, the angel shouted at her and she brought out something that looked like a goat and gave it to the young man.
But this man was a wise man. Thus, he asked the angel who she was, and the angel replied this is your grandmother. But the man said she had died, before he was born, but the angel told him that his virtue was indeed stolen from him by his grandmother when he was six months old in her mother's womb. This may sound strange, but it is true that one's glory can be stolen while somebody is still in his mother womb.
It was after this prayer, which the brother despite the fact the he is a Christian had never prayed in his life.
The following morning, he was going out to buy soap when a car parked beside and it turned out to be his classmate when they were in secondary school. He then asked him are you not going to work? The man replied, work? I don't have a job. This surprised his friend who knew him as a brilliant man and this friend took, him to his office where he met the Managing Director of the bank. He was thereafter not only offered a job, but a house and a car of his own choice. |
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Your messages seem to be strange and fearful…
All those things we preach at MFM are things the enemies do not like people to hear. These are secret things about life that you need to know, even as a believer, to move your life forward. Besides some of the so-called strange messages are what we General Overseer, I have heard and seen many things in my life. If I begin to share them with you, you may not believe it. You may think they are fictions, but they are true. I will give you a few examples.
Mother who blinded her daughter.
I was here one day when a woman brought her beautiful daughter to see me. But the strange thing about this daughter was that she was blind. So as directed by the Holy Spirit, we locked them up in a room and we gave them a prayer point- 'every arrow fired into my eyes, go back to the sender.'
This prayer had not lasted for thirty minutes when we heard a shout ‘Ye ye!' We rushed there. To our surprise, the daughter of the woman is now seeing while the mother is blind. The mother, who is taking her daughter all the over place, has indeed took her eyes away. Is that not strange to you?
Serpent-headed male organ
We were in crusade in one of the high institutions when all of a sudden, a young man began to move forward in a dangerous way and as he was coming, he was removing is trousers. All efforts by the deliverance ministers to prevent him failed. What did we see? A male organ, which has a serpent head. I saw it, everybody saw it. We battled with it for a long time until we pour anointing oil before it became normal.
Then I asked this young man how he came about it. He said well, he knew about it when he joined the cult. Again, I asked him how many girls have you slept with? He replied 'General Overseer, I cannot remember. But I know I have slept with not less that 27 girls in the last two weeks.'
Imaging a girl sent to university by her parents to secure her future?
I was in Europe sometimes and I went to minister in a prison.
I introduced myself as a pastor. There was another man who introduced himself as witch. This is a country where there is freedom of religion. It may interest you to know that he has more people to listen to him that me. That is the kind of strange things happening in our world today.
For us at MFM, we believed that for anybody that was born into this world. God has a purpose –a destiny which is the blueprint of one's life. Our mission is to each people God's way to fulfill their destines here before they go. MFM is less than 20 years but it is spreading across the world.
Even that alone is a miracle here.
Although God gave this vision, I never knew that MFM would explode within the shortest possible time. In fact, when it started growing, we didn't have facilities to cope with it. Up till now, we are still battling. But it is better. We used to have 100.000 at a sitting in a single meeting, but is has risen to 200,000 recently. Ourbranches have spread all over the world. We have 38 in America . In all, we have over 400 branches across the globe. It is the work of God.
We don't blow our trumpet here. This work belongs to Jesus. I believe I should hide behind him. Beside, the Jesus who owns the work will project the image of His work. Recently, I was embarrassed in London when we went for the anointing service. The number of people at the airport coming for the programme made us to put it off when the police were grumbling abut controlling the crowd. That is how God has helped MFM. Even our books, especially the Prayer Rain, is used by most Christians across different denominations. MFM is not in competition with any church. It is a church established by God. Besides, it is not meant for black people alone, but for mankind. Just like MFM has friends, it also has enemies.
There was a time a pastor alleged that a cow was buried here to attract crowd. By seven days, he was already buried, even without us praying or challenging him. Maybe you must also hear that some people say MFM is growing because of the childlessness of Dr. Olukoya. Thank God, Elijah Tioluwani has come.
MFM is still making tremendous progress. Like my loving wife said in the testimony she gave, God has given us a vision. God told us to be patient and we have to wait for 15 years. The secret of the waiting many people don't understand. What has happened to me is an indication that all powers belong to God.
What about the University of Lagos Prays that MFM organized recently?
It is the concept and idea of UNILAG PRAYER GROUP, after the violence that rocked the institution. MFM was called upon by the authorities to pray there. You must also not forget that I was an ex-student of UNILAG. I left there 25 years ago. So, I should share in the pains of the institution.
I must use this opportunity to commend the vice-chancellor. Professor Ayo Ibidapo-Obe and his entire staff for supporting the programme. The two services of prayers held there have been wonderful. I'm looking forward to attend more of the prayer session. UNILAG is a school of destiny. It is not by chance that great men of God like Pastor Adeboye, Pastor Kumuyi and Wole Oke passed though the institution. So, every power of darkness that wants to destroy the university must be dealt with.
Culled from the Guardian
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