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We have those who fight for God
and those who God fight for.
It is better you allow God to fight for you
- T. B. Joshua

The following is an excerpt from an interview T.B. Joshua granted some journalists recently.


(Another Interview with T.B. Joshua here)

Is it true that some Nigerian Pastors have shifted grounds by visiting you here in recent times? Are you trying to develop another body of Christian Fellowship like the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria or CAN?
Well, let me say this before we start. I respect integrity. You should not mention anybody's name or refer to any association. But you are free to say what you see here, and write only what you hear from me.

Now to your question, I have been receiving calls, letters and requests of Pastors who want to be here. They want to come to the Church here and see things for themselves, and to have personal encounter and interaction with Prophet T. B Joshua, and since T. B. Joshua will not chain them down here and they are here to find out the truth and that is why you see them here and we welcome them. No one can succeed alone. So it is normal for them to confirm what they have been hearing. I love everyone, and we welcome everybody to the church.

Are you making any effort to encourage a fellowship of Nigerian Pastors like P FN? Don't mention PFN or any fellowship, don't refer to anyone and don't compare.

Why don't you have branches in Nigeria ?
We have branches in some parts of Nigeria . We have The Synagogue Church in Kogi State , we have in Benin City , and one of our biggest branches, we also have in Akure, Port Harcourt and other places. As you might have known we have Synagogue Church All Nations is Austria , in South Africa , Ghana and other parts of the world, and we have Pastors there.

In spite of all you are doing, negative reports still trail you in some quarters in Nigeria . However, you still attract foreigners in large quantity to the country.
I don't know about what I am doing, the day I know about what I am doing, the day I start thinking about it, pride sets in, and pride is a destroyer.
Let me also tell you, there is difference between Mr. T. B. Joshua, and Prophet T. B. Joshua. For instance as Mr. T. B. Joshua, what I want to do is not what I am doing, what I want to say is not I am saying, what I want to wear is not what I am wearing Mr. T. B Joshua, is the physical man you see but Prophet T. B. Joshua is the spirit of God within. It is an undeserving grace.

Concerning Emmanuel TV, the TV arm of the Synagogue Church , do you have provision for Nigerian pastors who want to preach on it?
It is just a new born baby. They are still test running it. It is a TV that is meant to change the world irrespective of the race. It is not for Nigerians alone.

We have not heard you ministering outside the Synagogue in Lagos, like holding crusades and revivals.
Invite me and see if I will not come. The problem is just that I can't leave 100 problems inside and pursue two problems outside. Before I can move to any outside crusade, God will make sure that the case I attend to there are more than what I have here.

But it is like you don't want to reply to the criticisms against you by others.
Judge not. You have seen what we do here, you are allowed to form your opinion whether it is a place of God or not. We have those who fight for God and those who God fight for. It is better you allow God to fight for you.

How do you respond to persecution?
If you are a Christian when you have persecution, each persecution draws you closer to God.

We want to talk about the artistic masterpiece in the church here….
Within gives birth to without. The Holy Spirit gives birth to what you have within you to develop what people will see outside. The one you can see is Mr. T. B Joshua and the one you cannot see is Prophet T. B Joshua as the one inside.

It is a grace to be a servant. Mr. T. B Joshua is married with children (laughs) we work by faith not by sight. All those shining architects and designs are all what you too can do. I am not ordained by man. I am ordained by God. I am just a servant. I go anywhere my master the Lord wants me to go and do what He asks me to do.

We are aware that you maintain this church without forcing monetary contributions on members. How do you fund the church?
God's kind of character reflects love and blessing is unlimited when God calls you. He gives you all you need. When God provides for you and you spend it on the cause that the Lord has hands in He will see you through. What do you think would cost a Briton to come to Nigeria? Only God can bring that grace. If God can bring that grace, and bring anointing that can go to any nations what do you think God cannot do? But I must say that our love for money should not affect our relationship with God. Our love for materialism should not affect our relationship with God

Your final word.
I want to be sure that I am talking to the right people. I pray that the truth you have taken will not be changed. I love everyone but I don't trust anybody. Write what you ·know about T. B. Joshua. Write what you have seen and not what you think or what you feel the people think.