Today many churches are established not because of disagreement with doctrine but because of self interest. And many of the churches are owned by one man. It has become a business. So it may not be possible to have unity in the body of Christ but we may be one in faith. And that is the prayer we are praying. The African church left the Anglican church in 1901 because of the problem of the British people.
One of the leaders, James Johnson was promised would be made a bishop if he was able to raise 10,000 pounds. On his way from Sierra-Leone, he raised 5000 pounds and he was sure of getting the remaining amount when he gets to Lagos. But on getting to Lagos, Bishop Hill, a Briton stopped him from raising money and was asked to be moved to Onitsha.
Another priest was appointed in charge of St. Paul, Breadfruit in 1901 and that annoyed some of the worshippers in the church. About 800 members moved out of the church in annoyance and went out to built their own church within 40 days. They now asked Rev. Williams from St. Jude’s church to come an dedicate the church. He came and before he got back to his church, he was fired.
That was how he was asked to come and lead the church.
And that was it. Now the African Church and the Anglican Church are talking and looking for ways of collaboration because the churches are identical in many respects.
But the bishop of the African church is saying that the church is not interested in any collaboration with the Anglican Church?
If he is saying that, I would not be able to talk on that. But what I know is that the Anglican Church will not force them. We are big enough. We are not casting anybody away and we will not be an impediment to anybody. The church of Southern India for example is one. They don’t have the kind of division we have here in Nigeria.
What is your impression of the kind of sermons being preached by church leaders today especially on television?
If a pastor refuses to study and read, he becomes irrelevant. And if any pastor is worldly and talks about material things always, then those who are in need will listen to him. The question is: Are people preaching salvation message because I believe that is the greatest ingredient in a person’s life. Many preachers don’t look beyond death. They are so engrossed in this world that one begins to wonder whether they really believe in the Christ they preach.
The bible says there is never a time the poor will cease from the land. We will always have the poor. But the preachers of today place so much emphasis on money and material things that those who are poor sometimes feel they are not Christians and many have even preached like that. And that is why people will go and steal and come and pay tithe of the money they stole.
I told people at the independence celebration that: “If you stole money and bring it to church and we do not know, we will pray for your but God himself will reverse that prayer.”
Somebody wrote to me and said I should pray for him that they have removed him from where he used to make money. He was a custom’s officer. And I told him he has just been removed from where he steals money.
People don’t believe that you can be rich without stealing money. Those who places emphasis on material things are not helping the body of Christ. There was a time a man was always bringing a tithe of N50,000 to church every week. At a point I got curious and I announced in the church that somebody brought a cheque of N50,000 and that the cheque bounced, that the person should come and see me. The following the day the man brought cash and came to the office.
When I saw him, I said, your cheque did not bounce, I just wanted to know the kind of work you are doing. So the man explained that he got a contract and that they were paying him in dollars every week. He went home and brought the papers of the contract. And I was pleased. Today, the man and I are friends. What I’m saying is that pastors should take the pain to know the source of income of their members. |